What's Your Threshold?

	Duration: 06:30 minutes Upload Time: 07-04-09 07:29:21 User: redpharmacist :::: Favorites
Description: interview with Derrick Jensen (3/6)
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neroadam ::: Favorites Yup. After widespread ecological catastrophe, I don't reckon the energy and resources required to sustain a large sedentary population will be available. 07-05-24 20:31:20 _____________________________________________________
blampow ::: Favorites "Yup. After widespread ecological catastrophe, I don't reckon the energy and resources required to sustain a large sedentary population will be available." Could well be. 07-05-24 21:28:57 _____________________________________________________
neroadam ::: Favorites civilization is a recent phenomenon. you clearly don't have any idea how first humans lived. 07-05-24 22:09:04 _____________________________________________________
blampow ::: Favorites No, I'm fairly familiar with anarchoprimitivism's ideas about indigenous peoples. The thing is, the data's sketchy at best, and it's never been demonstrated as possible to "go back": it's like wanting to return to childhood. Somebody will ruin it, get the upper hand, and to stop them, you've got to advance in civilisation with them. 07-05-25 12:12:39 _____________________________________________________
blampow ::: Favorites Chief Seattle's famous speech was fiction, written by Ted Perry for the script of an ecological film called "Home". Also see "The Ecological Indian: Myth and History" by Shepard Krech III. If you have some ironclad documentation of human prehistory being glorious, I'd like to hear it: but the whole thing about being "prehistorical" is that the records are iffy. 07-05-25 12:14:16 _____________________________________________________
blampow ::: Favorites Perry wove such wonderful lines as "The earth does not belong to man; man belongs to the earth" ... (he) expected to be given credit for writing this film script, but he made the mistake of including the Chief's name in his text. According to Perry, the producer didn't credit his screen writer because he thought the film might seem more authentic without a "written by" credit. 07-05-25 12:16:04 _____________________________________________________
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blampow ::: Favorites Also, what's happened to every indigenous society that's come in contact with civilisation? Absorption, at best. The most requested show on the Aboriginal People's television network of australia is Seinfeld. 07-05-25 13:14:05 _____________________________________________________
omgutubeismylife ::: Favorites wow 07-08-16 03:04:17 _____________________________________________________
pennilesscripple ::: Favorites you see living in community and connecting deeply to the earth and each other as a regression, as would anyone who has absorbed the lies of the dominant culture. i see what people commonly call 'progress' as a regression. just look around at how 'happy' everyone is, and how sick and sad the earth and the animals are. 07-08-16 12:21:03 _____________________________________________________
pennilesscripple ::: Favorites humans lived and thrived without civilization for 10K+ years. they still do, in small pockets that are threatened to be absorbed into civilization. it can't be blamed for all of our problems as people, but it is the source of a whole heap of ills, and dismantling that source will ultimately eradicate the ills. perhaps you are working under a different definition of the word 'civilization.' 07-08-16 12:25:35 _____________________________________________________